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Post by dswanson on Feb 27, 2012 9:51:35 GMT -5
Hello,
I am looking for information on Tatemina (Round Wind), the Dakota warrior that received a last minute pardon from President Lincoln that saved him from the gallows and the fate of the thirty-eight. I am looking for as much information as possible: Was he from Little Crow's band? How old was he? Was he married? Did he have children? Was Whipple the man responsible for saving him? What was the argument that convinced Lincoln that he was innocent? I understand that two German boys accused him and that their testimony was questionable from the outset. Where was Tatemina when the boy's mother was killed?
I have been writing a historical novel over the last two years that culminates with the Sioux uprising and mass hanging that was its result. Accurate information is important to me.
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 27, 2012 9:59:38 GMT -5
dswanson: his name was Tatemnima.he was a head man of the Lac Qui Parle Wahpetons. He was born@1797 MN Terr. died: n/a round wind wed one of Old Betsy's daughter in 1846, possibly nancy anpahdewin St. clair On 1853 and 1857 Kaposia Annuity rolls he had a a wife and two children. He had 2 wives in the 1830"s. he was the borther of Mary Tonkanne Renville,wife of the famous trader Joseph Renville. have you tried the MnHist. soc. website tosee what they might have? www.mnhs.org |
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Post by dswanson on Feb 27, 2012 15:53:40 GMT -5
Thank you! Wonderful information . . . I have looked at what the Minnesota Historical Society has, and your information is, by far, the most helpful. I live near the Mdewakanton reservation in Prior Lake, and they have little information of the type I seek, however, I have seen a copy of the document from Lincoln (according to Indigenous Policy Journal, The Indian Policy of Abraham Lincoln), which orders the executions. This name occurs as the ninth name on Lincoln’s proclamation and he is identified as “Ta–Te–Mi-Na" and he appears as number 15 by the record.
Is it possible that we are talking about two different men? According to the birth year you gave me, he would have been 65 at the time of the uprising. Does that make sense?
If you can provide anything further, please do so. I appreciate your help.
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 27, 2012 17:17:14 GMT -5
No it is the same one, what was in the letter Lincoln signed was the english adulteration of his name. the whites wrote the names as they heard them pronounced. i have seen his name spelled also as Tatemima. In Dakota ,they don't pronounce the n.
Yes he was pardoned at the last minute. In fact, he had had a letter written for him in Dakota, to be given to his family, the night before the executions.
He is not on the list of those released in 18666 from the Ft. MCclellan Prison Camp, nor on the list of those who died while in prison.
He amy have been sent to Crow Creek with the other Internees t Ft. Snelling in Spring of 1863.
the re was a roll made of those at Crow Creek in 1864, but it was so badly damaged, that only 4 pages survived. I can only specualte that he may have died at Crow Creek.
He and Mary Tonkanne or Tunkanna were the siblings of Chief Big Thunder,(I don't know if he was Little Crow the II or III) of the Little Crow Dynasty.
Nancy Anpahdewin shows up on the 1885 Santee Census as the grandmother of Charles St. Clair. I haven't been able to connect her to him though.
1900 US Census for Knox ,NE lists Nancy at age 68 yrs. ,had been married at age 31 (or married when she was 31 yrs old) that she had 5 children, but only I living(that would be Isabella or Elizabeth St. Clair, former wife of Stephen Blacksmith). Isabella's father, I believe was a whiteman, named ? Miller.(REf. Old Betsy,The Life And Times of a Famous Dakota Woman and her family. Mark Diedrich. 1995 and 2005(or 6). prairie Smoke Press.
I hope this helps you.
A good reference is "Little Crow,Spokesman For The Sioux"..The appendix has the family tree for Little Crow.
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Post by dswanson on Feb 27, 2012 19:05:25 GMT -5
I can't express my appreciation for your information. Thank You!
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 28, 2012 12:13:02 GMT -5
You are most welcome. please don't hesitate to contact us if you need more help.
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Post by DarkWolfe on Nov 30, 2012 22:56:15 GMT -5
1892 SD YANKTONAI SIOUX TRIBE, YANKTON AGENCY
51/128 Tatekmikbiwno Round Wind Woman I F Wife 47 (b 1831)
Round Wind (Tatemima) had wives:
1st-Mary Dutwin St. Clair (Scarlet Woman) b @1820
dau of Iron Sword (1783-1863) - Betsey Mary Hazainyankewin "Woman Who Runs for Huckleberries" "Old Betsey" St. Clair (1803-1886)
children: 1-Fanny died 1840 2-Emma 1835-?
2nd-Nancy Anpahdiwin (Appearing Day Woman) St. Clair b 1831
son: Charles Tacantewastedan "His Good Road" St. Clair born 1864
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Post by hermin1 on Dec 1, 2012 20:18:16 GMT -5
Dark Wolfe: Old Betsey's mother was Greyface Woman. Are you saying that Greyface Woman was Roundwind's spouse? What is your reference?
Betsy was said to have married several Times: Iron Sword, and Chief Good Roads,were two of her spouses.
where did you find the information on IronSword and Tatemima
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Post by hermin1 on Dec 1, 2012 20:29:33 GMT -5
i am wondering who Emma Anpahdiwin(sp.)was?she appears in the Mdewakanotn Censues as mother-in-law to John Smith(indian John)and living with him and his family.
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